Thursday, December 18, 2025

A Conversation with AI and a NEW AI created Re-Mix

As I have been researching and writing about the sound and recordings of The Four Seasons [and Frankie Valli in particular] for a few decades now and given the talk on t’Internet of so much change coming, I thought it was time to consult an expert and perhaps get a different‘take’ on things and perhaps another perspective so ‘dedicated’ fans can find out from an supposedly ‘real’ expert!!


It was time to have a conversation with AI and ask some pertinent questions


So I asked via Google AI …...”if the Four Seasons 1960s sound was ‘dated’ to todays audiences ?”


This was the reply…..”No, the music of Frankie Valli and The Four Seasons is generally not considered merely a "dated 60s sound," but rather a timeless American classic that continues to be relevant and influential. While the music is firmly rooted in the 1960s pop era, its sustained popularity and influence across different generations demonstrate its enduring quality. They have….Broad generational appeal: The Broadway musical Jersey Boys, which tells the story of the band, introduced their music to new, younger generations and brought a new awareness to their catalog. The show's global success in various cities and its film adaptation have ensured the music's continued life far beyond the original release dates. In essence, while the music captures a specific era, its quality, unique vocal style, and continued presence in popular culture have given it a lasting power that defies being simply "dated."


So then I asked “Is the Four Seasons 'Snapper' Box Set a good Anthology ”?

The reply ….”Yes, the major Four Seasons box sets, especially the recent "Working Our Way Back to You: The Ultimate Collection" (Snapper/Madfish) and Rhino's earlier anthologies, are considered excellent and comprehensive, offering deep dives with remastered hits, rare B-sides, demos, outtakes, and insightful booklets, setting a high bar for fan collections. They're praised for their depth, rarities (including Motown sessions and lost albums), quality packaging, and full artist cooperation, making them essential for serious fans, though the sheer size and price of the ultimate set targets dedicated collectors.”


So I thought I had better test if my own research was pertinent, so I asked …..”Is there any chance of more Four Seasons unreleased tracks especially from the Motown era?”


The reply is fascinating ….but accurate ……


“Yes, it is possible for more Four Seasons unreleased tracks from the Motown era to be released, as a significant number are still in the vault. However, there is no official news of an imminent release, and it would likely require a concentrated effort from Frankie Valli and Bob Gaudio, along with Universal/Motown, to make it happen. 

Current Status of Unreleased Motown Tracks

  • Existing Tracks: The 2023 massive 45-disc box set, Working Our Way Back To You: The Ultimate Collection, included a disc titled "Motown Previously Unreleased" featuring 13 tracks that fans had not heard before.

  • Still in the Vault: Despite this release, an estimated 20 to 26 other tracks recorded during their time at Motown (1971-1974) "should exist in completely or partially completed form," according to Four Seasons Appreciation Society expert Ken Charmer's index list.

  • Quality: A Universal Motown chief librarian reportedly commented that at least 16 of these remaining unreleased tracks are of similar quality to those already in the box set, suggesting they are worthy of release.

  • Obstacles: Previously, issues with negotiating royalty contracts and an apparent reluctance by the Four Seasons Partnership (FSP) to focus on their Motown era material (denying the existence of quality unreleased tracks) were primary barriers to their release. Some of these tracks were recorded by other Motown artists, such as Marvin Gaye and the Four Tops. 

In short, the music exists, but an official release depends on future business decisions by the rights holders.[ed...FSP or Universal Motown] Fans continue to campaign for their release. “

So finally I asked ……..”Is AI improving the original STEREO Masters of The Four Seasons 60s recordings?”


And the reply again sums up the situation for fans.


“While AI audio technology is being used in general to restore and improve vintage recordings, there is no official, large-scale AI project currently announced by a major record label specifically to improve the original stereo masters of The Four Seasons' 60s recordings. 

Independent efforts and niche labels, however, are using AI tools to create high-quality, "new" stereo mixes from original mono masters, which can offer a significantly improved listening experience compared to older releases. 

Current Applications of AI in Audio Remastering

  • Mono-to-Stereo Conversion: A major application of AI in music restoration is the "upmixing" of classic mono tracks into high-quality stereo. This process uses AI to isolate instruments and vocals into separate digital "stems" and then remix them into a stereo field, often revealing previously hidden details.

  • Noise Reduction and Clarity: AI can effectively distinguish signal from artifact, allowing for the removal of common flaws like tape hiss, hum, and distortion without sacrificing the original character or "warmth" of the recording.

  • Fan-Made and Niche Releases: Discussions and YouTube posts indicate that some AI-enhanced versions of Four Seasons songs exist as fan projects or on small, specialized labels (like the "DES stereo" versions found on ericrecords.com). These are not official releases from the major rights holders.

  • Official Releases: Major projects like Peter Jackson's work on The Beatles' Get Back documentary have officially used similar AI "demixing" technology to clean up dialogue and music from difficult source tapes. This demonstrates that major labels and rights holders are aware of and use the technology for official releases. 

Limitations for The Four Seasons Fans

A significant challenge for a comprehensive, official remastering of the Four Seasons' catalog is the potential for missing original master and session tapes, as the band recorded in various studios for labels that are now defunct. This makes AI technology a valuable tool for working with the best available sources. 

In summary, while AI techniques could be used to enhance existing stereo masters, the current prominent application related to 60s recordings is the conversion of mono tracks to AI-enhanced stereo, a practice pursued more by niche labels and fans for The Four Seasons' catalog.”

Well as I have made clear [and many readers will know] the reality is that the best versions of the 1960s ‘masters’ can best be found on the early 1990’s CD twofers from ACE Records and in some album case the Rhino and Collectors Choice album re-issues. I covered this subject earlier in many now lost blog posts[and preserved these ‘best Masters’ in STEREO with NEW MONO Mix-downs using the best Steinberg Software] this year in my series of ‘The Four Seasons - Studio Tales/Recordings’.

Unfortunately with the demise of Typepad my past blogs are lost to internet users …..but I will ‘reprise’ those important commentaries on how the masters were recored and preserved during 2026…..and and explain why AI Re-Construction has been my side hobby in recent years….Some Artists[maybe Frankie and Bob?] and Sound Engineers [Bill Inglot?]are very ‘anti’ any de-construction and re-mixing of their masters but to me it is just a case as in the case of The Beatles/Beach Boys ‘Restoration’ Projects a modern tech presentation which enables earphone/earbud enjoyment as never before available .


Such ‘re-modelling’ is left to collectors/amateur sound engineers I would challenge the idea that any modern ‘pro’ engineers would easily appreciate and preserve the ‘heart’ of the original productions, as readers like you and me? We really know theirsound as we grew up with it in MONO only. Those MONO Mixes stand up as the ORIGINAL in ‘intent and mix’, and my ENHANCEMENTS are just an interpretation of how they could have appeared in STEREO with more advance technology which emerged by 1967 with 16 track recording desks.


However restoration of the early catalogue in this form for fans remains a dream that probably will not happen in our lifetime or only partly be found in my ‘You Tube’ posts since I found the skills to learn the best aspects of AI extraction of vocals and instruments. The number of tracks needing correction to create modern re-mixes is just TOO BIG a task for me alone

But as I review whether there is any point in spending any more of my life ‘subsidising’ the Four Seasons Partnership with top quality STEREO Re-mixes here is my Christmas treat to all Four Seasons fans.

The group at Vee-Jay with Bob Crewe started to ‘farm’ the late 50s for songs that they could apply their production and recording skills to [with Charlie Calello’s brilliant arrangements]. They started this fully from the ‘Big Girls Don’t Cry’ album and later Philips revisited some of these for the ‘Looking Back’ album when the group and Crewe gained control of the Vee-Jay Masters in 1966 when that label ‘collapsed’

A ‘live’ performance fave throughout the 1960s was their re-working of the classic Skyliners song ‘Since I Don’t Have You’ and so I asked the AI Extractor to pull 5 stems from each half of the STEREO Mix that has survived[left and right channels]. I re-mixed the result in Audacity.


All I will say is that the Vee-Jay engineers did a good job and the stems created a complex set of instrument and vocal elements. The Spatial Enhancer then filled out the Mix and you can judge the listening experience yourself. I can’t think of a better way to feature and enjoy both…….. in a different ‘sound-stage’ presentation.



And finally I found a recent You Tube REVIEW of the Box Set that came out two and a half years ago [thanks to the work of Bob Fisher and I did…..aided by Bill Inglot…….. since 2018 until Bob’s untimely ‘passing’]


The review……. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls7zCjWqFIA&t=919s

I hope readers enjoy this blog and I wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

[BTW….I reckon the ‘’Christmas Album’ recorded in November 1962 was a LIVE STEREO recording and it remains preserved in MINT condition on all of the CD issues since 1988?]


Ken Charmer – Master Track and AI Researcher December 2025

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